Thanks, Werner, I got my first pager ever! :)
Anyway, my point was that Chit-Chat was created, if I remember well, because some users were tired to see always on top of New Posts, posts of just those threads I named. It wasn't about rubbish=games posts.
Also worth noting, was that chit-chat was created and stood as a "normal" forum for quite a while, before it was decided that people who didn't want to read it should be able to NOT see it in their "new posts".
I always thought it would be better for those types of forums if they were ALL visible in the basic view (eg, for newbies), and then people who knew the forum,and knew they weren't interested in posting there, could opt out. The way it is, newbies often don't know about Chit-chat, you have to change user setting to even be able to see what it's all about. I don't know if that's just how the vBulletin hack thingies work, though.
....and yes, there were sone very long conversation chit-chatty type threads in there, right from the beginning. So the Bar threads aren't the only ones with their own longstanding history. Chit-chat was created just for those long threads, way in its beginning, I believe.