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#21 OneArpeggioPete

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Posted 25 October 2006 - 04:26 PM

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i think whenever meat is involved, you can (roughly) go by: dark (red) meat = dark (red) wine, fish, chicken, and sometimes pork go well with a white.

i don't know terribly much about wine; i just know excellent from good, good from bad, and bad from godawful. and i know where to buy it :)

I too prefer reds... spanish, italian, south american, austrian... not too keen on french, but i actually bought one for tonight. we'll see what happens!
Wine with dinner is nice, but also for a nice evening with your loved one or a good friend. i usually don't drink wine before evening.

Austrian wine is little known internationally, mostly because not much of it is exported into other countries. if you ever wanna try austrian wine, you should go for a veltliner (white), or a zweigelt or blaufränkischer (red).

Another austrian thing is the "Spritzer", either red or white, it's wine (not the most expensive ones of course) mixed with slightly carbonated water. very refreshing in summer.
oh and mulled wine is delicious, too.

gotta be a heavy red for good mulled wine... is veltliner getting good again? you used to be able to get it here a couple of years ago, but not anymore. it sort of became too fashionable for a while as far as i can see it (danke herr biolek), and did a bit of a cabernet sauvignon, didn't it? too much produced to satisfy demand and hence a drop in quality. it would be nice to try a bottle now... on the whole, i can't get enough of lübecker rotspon at the moment, the status of that wine as a classic is quite justified.

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Posted 27 October 2006 - 06:16 AM

OneArpeggioPete said:

gotta be a heavy red for good mulled wine... is veltliner getting good again? you used to be able to get it here a couple of years ago, but not anymore. it sort of became too fashionable for a while as far as i can see it (danke herr biolek), and did a bit of a cabernet sauvignon, didn't it? too much produced to satisfy demand and hence a drop in quality. it would be nice to try a bottle now... on the whole, i can't get enough of lübecker rotspon at the moment, the status of that wine as a classic is quite justified.

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funny you're asking, a few weeks a go i read a report about a Veltliner shortage this year :eek: turned out tho that just a small area was affected (Marchfeld methinks). apart from that, this year's wine should be sensationaly good, including Veltliner; thanks to the wonderful weather in September.

And by the way, can you tell me why it is virtually impossible to get German wine in Austria? Weird. Chile, New Zealand, no problem, but Germany? Nooo.
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#23 OneArpeggioPete

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Posted 27 October 2006 - 02:41 PM

MeanCat said:

funny you're asking, a few weeks a go i read a report about a Veltliner shortage this year :eek: turned out tho that just a small area was affected (Marchfeld methinks). apart from that, this year's wine should be sensationaly good, including Veltliner; thanks to the wonderful weather in September.

And by the way, can you tell me why it is virtually impossible to get German wine in Austria? Weird. Chile, New Zealand, no problem, but Germany? Nooo.

because we keep it to ourselves? it's the only reason i can think of really. even within germany, a lot of excellent wines never make it beyond the production region because the production capacity is so small. i guess the german wine yield such as it is is just not big enough to supply international markets (even if it's only just across the border) with a large quality selection. i see it over here, you get a very limited selection of german wines, and absolutely most of them are quite obviously massproduced for export and not half as good as their equivalents on the german market would be. the most successful german wine here is still liebfrauenmilch (known as blue nun), as you most likely well know, that's not even sold in germany anymore, and i fear is ruining the reputation of german wine in the marketplace. until i introduced david to german wines in germany he had thought they were all crap because liebfrauenmilch had been his only exposure. btw - it's fiendishly hard to find good austrian wines on the german market too. the downside of being a small but quality conscious winenation in both cases i should think.

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