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[madloop]

According to Seattle Weekly ...

http://blogs.seattle...t_peter_buc.php

[Colinzeal]

Surely he wouldn't sing on it???

He hates signing by all accounts.

Now where could he find a singer?

[thomas08]

holy shit is this good news or what?!

[mgeldere]

An early April fools joke or what?

[robbbin]

That didnt take long, and as I have said many times, he is a true minstrel. His record will out sell Accelerate and CIN combined.

[7 chineSe robs.]

robbbin, on 13 March 2012 - 11:25 PM, said:

His record will out sell Accelerate and CIN combined.

If he releases it on vinyl only, as the article suggests, he'll be lucky to sell 1 percent of what either of those albums did. Somehow, though, I don't think he's in this for sales.

C'mon, Pete. We all love vinyl, but not many of us have record players anymore.

[Sweden]

7 chineSe robs., on 14 March 2012 - 12:34 AM, said:

If he releases it on vinyl only, as the article suggests, he'll be lucky to sell 1 percent of what either of those albums did. Somehow, though, I don't think he's in this for sales.

C'mon, Pete. We all love vinyl, but not many of us have record players anymore.

Anymore? This sounds like a comment from 2002 or something. CDs is a rapidly declining format, while vinyl is increasing at an impressive pace. Vinyl + download + spotify(or similar) are the current most improtant formats. Fewer things are released on CDs now, they're either just distributed electronically, or a vinyl is released (and perhaps bundled with a download code).
Maybe in slightly less technically developed markets (the US for example) this movement has not reached the same point as elsewhere, but it surely is coming.

While I still buy some CD's, I really don't understand why anyone would do that going forward. Either you're fine with the digital sound, such as CD's, and then you can just as well use your spotify/itunes/wimp/rdio etc.  Or, you go for a hi-fi and music buff experience and buy the vinyl. As for Peter's record, if this is indeed true, I don't hink he could care less about sales.

Anyway, really look forward to this. Really don't know what to expect.

[7 chineSe robs.]

Sweden, on 14 March 2012 - 01:13 AM, said:

Anymore? This sounds like a comment from 2002 or something. CDs is a rapidly declining format, while vinyl is increasing at an impressive pace. Vinyl + download + spotify(or similar) are the current most improtant formats. Fewer things are released on CDs now, they're either just distributed electronically, or a vinyl is released (and perhaps bundled with a download code).

Not expecting a CD, but a download would be nice. However, the article excludes all but vinyl -- a format we'll agree to disagree on in terms of access.

[GreeneGrowTheRushes]

This is really good news! And as Peter likes to work fast as he's frequently said, it should be out sooner rather than later.

[ebowtheloser]

Can't wait! And vinyl is fine with me- I've been on a bit of a vinyl kick anyway since dragging out my old Monkees albums after Davy Jones' passing.

Go Peter!

[stipeeyes]

You can still buy record players.

Peter sing, I would be surprised by that.   I think if Peter did a solo album it would be instrumental or he would have guest singers.
I mean is he really much of a lyricist?

I know Mike mentioned a possible solo album.  How ironic if they both bring out a solo album this year.

[Driver Nate]

I found it odd that R.E.M. didn't include download code cards in the vinyl editions of their albums, especially given that they're supposedly such vinyl collectors themselves (especially Buck). I don't have the statistics handy but the last thing I read about vinyl sales in the U.S. is they're still on the upsurge. It's not expected they will ever surpass the sale of downloads but it's pretty impressive that vinyl sales continue to be on the upswing. The most recent article I read on CD sales is that most experts expect CDs to go out of production within the next 3-5 years. Whether that actually becomes a reality or not remains to be seen. As for Buck's album, it would be nice if he went the download code card route in addition to just making it available on vinyl. Some other artists give you the option to download high resolution files in addition to mp3's. It would be wonderful if Buck offered these options as well.

[leavingnewyork]

Sweden, on 14 March 2012 - 01:13 AM, said:

Anymore? This sounds like a comment from 2002 or something. CDs is a rapidly declining format, while vinyl is increasing at an impressive pace. Vinyl + download + spotify(or similar) are the current most improtant formats. Fewer things are released on CDs now, they're either just distributed electronically, or a vinyl is released (and perhaps bundled with a download code).
Maybe in slightly less technically developed markets (the US for example) this movement has not reached the same point as elsewhere, but it surely is coming.

While I still buy some CD's, I really don't understand why anyone would do that going forward. Either you're fine with the digital sound, such as CD's, and then you can just as well use your spotify/itunes/wimp/rdio etc.  Or, you go for a hi-fi and music buff experience and buy the vinyl. As for Peter's record, if this is indeed true, I don't hink he could care less about sales.

Anyway, really look forward to this. Really don't know what to expect.

hit the nail on the head for me. i'm 22- the only physical form of media i buy is vinyl. other than that, spotify for when i'm not home/ don't like something enough to drop $12-$18 bucks on it.

i'm sure there will be digital vinyl rips out as soon as it's released

[thomas08]

I've never gotten as much enjoyment out of a Vinyl as I have out of a CD. The CD brought about the big album booklets, were a more sensible size and a lot easier to play. For example, I have a CD player in my sitting room, kitchen, car, bedroom etc. whereas I only own 1 record player. The vinyl is just not all that practical. I know the sound is better on a vinyl but not enough for me to complain about. I'd never purchase a Vinyl over a CD.

Also, I'm aware the vinyl is making a comeback but I still have yet to walk into a music store and see more Vinyl than CD's. Could you imagine all these kids purchasing Vinyls?? They're too lazy to buy and play CD's, nevermind a Vinyl.

[Driver Nate]

I actually prefer vinyl packaging to that of CDs. Oftentimes the text is so tiny for CD booklets that it's very difficult to read and just doesn't translate well to that size format. There's also instances where some CDs don't include the liner notes or artwork from the vinyl editions. That's particularly true of a lot of titles on the MCA label but I'm sure there's more. The plus side for CDs is obviously the convenience but I've found the same to be true of my iPod. It took me a while to come around but once I did, I was able to get most of my CD collection on a 160 GB iPod. Sure, the sound quality may not be as great but at least I don't find myself lugging around 500+ CDs everywhere I go. In my lifetime I've seen things go from reel-to-reel, vinyl, 8-track, cassettes, compact discs and back to some of those same formats again. Along the way, I've made concessions to sound quality (CDs, cassettes, the iPod) in the name of convenience. However, there are now very high resolution files that rival the sound quality of vinyl. Thing is, those files take up much more room on your iPod (or whatever device you use) than mp3's.

In my area (Raleigh, NC), there are several independent record stores left but there's still probably more CDs in there than vinyl but the vinyl sections do take up a pretty significant amount of floor space. What's been really strange to see is places like Best Buy stocking vinyl. Some stores devote less space to them than others but there's at least a couple in my area that have an entire row devoted to vinyl.

[Sweden]

thomas08, on 14 March 2012 - 09:17 AM, said:

I've never gotten as much enjoyment out of a Vinyl as I have out of a CD. The CD brought about the big album booklets, were a more sensible size and a lot easier to play. For example, I have a CD player in my sitting room, kitchen, car, bedroom etc. whereas I only own 1 record player. The vinyl is just not all that practical. I know the sound is better on a vinyl but not enough for me to complain about. I'd never purchase a Vinyl over a CD.

Also, I'm aware the vinyl is making a comeback but I still have yet to walk into a music store and see more Vinyl than CD's. Could you imagine all these kids purchasing Vinyls?? They're too lazy to buy and play CD's, nevermind a Vinyl.

This also sounds like a comment from 2002 to me. Not sure where you're from (Germany?), but if it's not yet the case there you'll soon see that no kids whatsoever buy CD's. They don't understand what those things are... If they access through any other means than Spotify, it's vinyl or itunes. CDs are bought (with a few exceptions like myself, but I'm also moving away from them) by middle aged people in gas stations... (Even though I agree that there is still less vinyl than CD's in record stores, but the gap is closing, mainly through CD's disappearing.)  CD players in every room also seems like a thing that soon will be gone. Why not hook up Air Play or Sonos units and play spotify or itunes everywhere? Certainly easier than CD's. That you just own one record player is my exact point - vinyl is for fancy listening in the living room, essentially. Everything else is more or less "on the move" anyway.

Anyway, to each his own I guess. I was just making a general comment on where the markets are heading.

[thomas08]

Sweden, on 14 March 2012 - 10:13 AM, said:

This also sounds like a comment from 2002 to me. Not sure where you're from (Germany?), but if it's not yet the case there you'll soon see that no kids whatsoever buy CD's. They don't understand what those things are... If they access through any other means than Spotify, it's vinyl or itunes. CDs are bought (with a few exceptions like myself, but I'm also moving away from them) by middle aged people in gas stations... (Even though I agree that there is still less vinyl than CD's in record stores, but the gap is closing, mainly through CD's disappearing.)  CD players in every room also seems like a thing that soon will be gone. Why not hook up Air Play or Sonos units and play spotify or itunes everywhere? Certainly easier than CD's. That you just own one record player is my exact point - vinyl is for fancy listening in the living room, essentially. Everything else is more or less "on the move" anyway.

Anyway, to each his own I guess. I was just making a general comment on where the markets are heading.

I'm from Ireland and live right on the border of 2 counties, both towns have multiple music stores and only one sells vinyl, on a little rack on the upper floor. I know the gap is closing, but i do not see a time where vinyl will outsell cd's. I agree that cd players will also soon be a thing of the past but in terms of convenience, digital downloads are 10 times more convenient than cd's, about 1000 times more convenient than vinyl and the cd is waaaay more convenient than vinyl.

I just do not see a time where the vinyl will overtake the cd because a) the cd is more compact/modern and the sale of digital downloads will greatly hinder the sale of vinyl.

[fanfan]

Excellent! I am sure it will be out in no time, I can't wait.

[Sweden]

thomas08, on 14 March 2012 - 10:23 AM, said:

I'm from Ireland and live right on the border of 2 counties, both towns have multiple music stores and only one sells vinyl, on a little rack on the upper floor. I know the gap is closing, but i do not see a time where vinyl will outsell cd's. I agree that cd players will also soon be a thing of the past but in terms of convenience, digital downloads are 10 times more convenient than cd's, about 1000 times more convenient than vinyl and the cd is waaaay more convenient than vinyl.

I just do not see a time where the vinyl will overtake the cd because a) the cd is more compact/modern and the sale of digital downloads will greatly hinder the sale of vinyl.

Five years ago the situation was the same here. You talking about "multiple music stores" in two (what I understand to be) not too large towns is just one sign of the development you seem to still have ahead of you there. Talking to my sister who lives in the UK about how her friends consume music shows a surprising lag in technical and market development there. Possibly Ireland is somewhat similar. But it'll come to you, I promise!

When you say that "I just do not see a time where the vinyl will overtake the cd because a) the cd is more compact/modern and the sale of digital downloads will greatly hinder the sale of vinyl" it seems you have completely missed my point though, because (a) vinyl and digital do in no way compete with eachother and ( it's digital that kills cds, not vinyl. The vinyl is a bi-effect of the transfer to digital.

Anyway, a murmurs member reported elsewhere that Peter "has that record already recorded with him singing all the songs, but they will change the vocals to guest singers most likely".

/D

[twistedkite]

Wow--I would have totally called this an April's Fool prank if it weren't for being the middle of March. I don't know how to feel about this...almost like hearing your ex-girlfriend/ex-boyfriend is doing really well!

I hope it's great, but then again, if the songs are awesome, it'll suck that JM Stipe isn't singing on them!

And as for that vinyl-only nonsense, I appreciate the effort/statement, but let's be real here: someone will make MP3's of this the first day it comes out! So why not provides some high quality MP3s? I hate posturing like that! I know Buck has principles and all, but when the resources are so easily available, it just seems kind of silly. What next? Release the liner notes only on stone tablet! "Ha-HA! Now only a select few will know what they are! No way for them to appear in other formats now!" Talk about annoying your fans...

(waits for reply that says "yeah, well only TRUE fans would buy the vinyl anyway!...." blah, blah, blah!

Where's my goddamn boxset!