9 replies to this topic

[robbbin]

http://www.youtube.c.../34/TBS6N1k4FsQ

[thomas08]

maybe the tempo and first note but after that they bave nothing in common

[welliwonder]

to be honest it was my first thought when I heard the opening of discoverer- its the same altered Bm chord , but then Buck uses that on a lot of stuff anyway, like Living Well and I think Finest Worksong too. Just confirms that CIN was deliberately touching base with the bands previous output rather than a radical new approach.

[robertandrews]

There is obviously something folky, Lifes Rich Pageanty, King Of Birdsy about the signature guitar part.

[JimmyWebbOnMars]

My god!  An E-B-G cord progression thrown together in two songs! Someone, call the government, this man not only knows where Hoffa's buried but knows New Coke was simply Not New Coke in a new can!!

[JimmyWebbOnMars]

That seemed kinda jerkish, sorry, but other that the first 2.4 seconds i lose the comparison, but after enough drinks i strangely find everything sounds like Sister Christian...its gross and im tune deaf

[thomas08]

JimmyWebbOnMars, on 19 January 2012 - 03:07 AM, said:

My god!  An E-B-G cord progression thrown together in two songs! Someone, call the government, this man not only knows where Hoffa's buried but knows New Coke was simply Not New Coke in a new can!!

E-B-G??

Isn't turn you inside out B-A-D, and Discoverer B-A-E??

At least when you're trying to be smart get it right

[Kimo]

thomas08, on 19 January 2012 - 08:35 AM, said:

Isn't turn you inside out B-A-D, and Discoverer B-A-E??

I confirm that.


There is a similarity between the two songs but I don't really care, I still appreciate both of them for different reasons.

[robbbin]

I was wondering what you would think. To me the first few notes are exactly the same, and the rest of the intro, even the vague vocal is very similar to Discoverer. I thought this was interesting, thats all. I recall the Rehearsals, This Is NOT A SHOW, from Dublin, where in the torrented shows, comment was made by the band that some things sounded too much like a previous song.....so felt they went out of their way to always sound different.

Buck always sounds different, no one can twang like him, thats what got me into REM 30 years ago. So for him to sound the same, there is a reason.

So here we go, stick with me. Its more like the Discover reprise than the full track, reprise this riff? hmm so look at the words of the song, Choice, Heart, Tool, Word accentuated......swap for the final album Lies, Heart, Garbage, Truth, very similar theme, TURN YOU INSIDE OUT is it meant to? all from first and last albums from Warners is that a coincidence. CIN has a theme, generally retrospective, are we meant to look back, has the band looked back? Walk it back, how I look back and reflect, you tell me which part of my story stuck stuck stuck baby, and then the day becomes the night, I came home to a city half erased, if the end came faster then we had expected, If I didnt like, If I didnt like, lay me down down down help me off to sleep.

CIN was made as the last album. Its no coincidence, Stipe knew this was the last one when he wrote the Lyrics, its telling you to look back, its all a circle, even the CD has you going round in circles to read the song names, this is not a coincidence. Its pure capricorn, cold, calculating, cryptic, funny Stipe. Its telling us to go back and start again, will keep us busy until the circle turns again. I am sure there is plenty more there to find if you look. Whatever you decide, these two songs are connected.

I am now convinced that in 5-10 years time the trio will reform in some way. That is why there was no grand finale, no announcement, no final tour coz.................................................................................Only joking folks!

Be the Athens High School Quartet prolly, Vocals, Double bass, Zdrums and 6 string, Bucks a funny bastard.

[Pilgrimager]

I don't know if there the same chords but the chord pattern for Discorver is vertually  identical to Turn you inside out which in turn was  virtually identical to Finest worksong. I just think that's just a fact plain and simple. Not that I really care. I love them all esp. the earlier 2.