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[RiversCuomoFan]

Anybody know anything about this song or when it was recorded? I just stumbled across it tonight, and on the surface, it has early elements of "Pilgrimage," "1,000,000" and "Stumble."

[rocket21]

It's the original Pilgrimage.

Would be great to hear a studio version if it exists.

[Driver Nate]

rocket21, on 17 November 2011 - 05:06 PM, said:

It's the original Pilgrimage.

This clip was recently posted in another thread which was the first time I'd heard it. While it definitely seems to bare some sort of resemblance to "Pilgrimage", I've wasn't aware that it had ever been confirmed as such.

[Oneleg]

I am pretty sure it was called "I'm In Love". Has been around for quite a while now.

[Sweden]

Here's the discussion on the topic from the R.E.M. Timeline page on facebook:

"The R.E.M. Timeline this sounds like the unknown song from the 22 January 1982 show. I called it a cross between Romance and Talk About The Passion, with a dash of Pilgrimage for good measure. Therefore I shall call this song 'Talk About The Pilgrimage Romance'!


David Ersmarker Thanks Darryl. I guess I have that show somewhere.


The R.E.M. Timeline it's been called an early version of talk about the passion or romance, but my opinion is it's a song in its own right. To my knowledge there's never been an official title for it


The R.E.M. Timeline A great tune, I wonder how many other 'unknown' embryonic songs existed which were never documented. This came from the 'File Under Kudzu' CD boot. Tim A.


The R.E.M. Timeline that bootleg also got the date wrong. It claimed this show was January 1983, but the January 1982 date is the correct one


Charles Rothenberger It looks like Romance predates this by 6-7 months. I would guess it probably morphed into Pilgrimage based on the lyrics and the timeline (Pilgrimage debuting a few months after this) with maybe some of the ideas loosely appropriated/recycled for Talk About The Passion."

[Kimo]

This tune kicks ass. It should have been on Murmur.

[rocket21]

Driver Nate, on 17 November 2011 - 05:31 PM, said:

This clip was recently posted in another thread which was the first time I'd heard it. While it definitely seems to bare some sort of resemblance to "Pilgrimage", I've wasn't aware that it had ever been confirmed as such.

I'd always seen it referred to as such since when I first heard it in the 1990s.

[sashwap]

it's not an early version of anything, but it does have elements that seem to have been recycled (even if that's just a lyrical snippet). cool song.

[RiversCuomoFan]

Thanks for the info! Anybody know where I can download this bootleg?

[sashwap]

apparently there is a second "unknown" song performed once in 1982:

25 June 1982 - I&I Club, Athens, GA
set: Radio Free Europe / Laughing / Gardening At Night / 9-9 / Pilgrimage / Shaking Through / Unknown / Wolves Lower / Romance / 1,000,000 / Pretty Persuasion / Moral Kiosk / Catapult / Carnival Of Sorts (Boxcars)
encore: White Tornado / We Walk / West Of The Fields / Sitting Still / Ages Of You / Stumble-Skank
notes: The unknown song is a new song that wasn't played again, or at least not recorded again by anyone. Between Boxcars and White Tornado the drum machine is turned on and the opening chords of Perfect Circle are played, however after a little while the song is aborted and not attempted again.

not on youtube, but it is circulating. can anyone dig this one up?

by the way, the one in the video above is from 22 January 1982 - Friday's, Greensboro, NC

[Sweet Fanny Addams]

Kimo, on 18 November 2011 - 03:17 AM, said:

This tune kicks ass. It should have been on Murmur.

  Totally agree. It rocks.