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[Driver Nate]

beatadrum, on 06 October 2011 - 08:24 AM, said:

I think REMHQ just took them of the net if no official version existed. The Orange Crush ones for example were a complete net lift.

As I mentioned elsewhere, I'm sure Mike & Michael sing 'Colour/Color' as opposed to 'Collar' as it makes much more sense considering the song title and the spraying of Agent Orange by the helicopters. Michael also made 'skooshing' noises on the record in between 'coming in fast' and 'over me' (and also live in 89).

The megaphone section is also word for word what the websites had in 2003 when REM HQ added lyrics for the Best Of - I'm sure the phrase '...until i came here and I was (playing for the??) college team' is spoken at 2.28. Disappointing and lazy lack of effort by REM HQ as those net lyrics ended up in song books and therefore some would like to regard them as official.

The lyrics for "Stand" posted on The Complete R.E.M. Lyrics Archive are listed as "official" though I'm not sure what the source is.

[beatadrum]

Driver Nate, on 06 October 2011 - 09:11 AM, said:

The lyrics for "Stand" posted on The Complete R.E.M. Lyrics Archive are listed as "official" though I'm not sure what the source is.

Most likely to be a recent tour lyric sheet unless taken from REM HQ, at which point the issue of no official Green lyrics being printed except for WLP would arise. I *think* all other previously released songs on the Best Of had had lyrics released officially in songbooks (OOT/AFTP), on singles (Monster), on DVD-A (HiFi) or on the sleeve (Up/Reveal).

[Driver Nate]

I think at some point the fan club also sent out some "official lyrics". If my ever failing memory serves, this was around the time of New Adventures In Hi-Fi.

[beatadrum]

Driver Nate, on 06 October 2011 - 10:15 AM, said:

I think at some point the fan club also sent out some "official lyrics". If my ever failing memory serves, this was around the time of New Adventures In Hi-Fi.

Yeah I think HiFi's lyrics were sent out iirc. All songs on it later appeared on the DVD-A that came out in 2005.

[Driver Nate]

beatadrum, on 06 October 2011 - 10:29 AM, said:

Yeah I think HiFi's lyrics were sent out iirc. All songs on it later appeared on the DVD-A that came out in 2005.

I'd have to do some digging through my old fanclub mailings but I'm thinking it was just for a few songs, though I may be mistaken. That's been a lot of years ago now.

[bluemookie]

Driver Nate, on 06 October 2011 - 10:15 AM, said:

I think at some point the fan club also sent out some "official lyrics". If my ever failing memory serves, this was around the time of New Adventures In Hi-Fi.

I'd have to look at them, but I'm pretty sure it was for only 8 of the songs.  They also sent out a sticker that had the Find The River lyrics.

[Ronja]

Driver Nate, on 06 October 2011 - 07:41 AM, said:

I'm afraid you'll have to wait for the Green-Accurate Lyrics thread. Do the ones at The Complete R.E.M. Lyrics Archive appear to be incorrect?

thanks for your help

[pauloedu]

bluemookie, on 05 October 2011 - 08:00 AM, said:

Pilgrimage

Take a turn, take a turn
Take our fortune, take our fortune

They called the clip a two-headed cow
Your hate clipped and distant, your luck with pilgrimage
Rest assured this will not last, take a turn for the worst
Your hate clipped and distant, your luck a two-headed cow
Pilgrimage has gained momentum
Take a turn, take a turn
Take our fortune, take our fortune

Speakin' in tongues, hope it's worth a broken lip
Your hate clipped and distant, your luck with pilgrimage
Rest assured this will not last, take a turn for the worst
Your hate clipped and distant, your luck a two-headed cow
Pilgrimage has gained momentum
Take a turn, take a turn
Take our fortune, take our fortune

Pilgrimage.  Pilgrimage.

Speakin' in tongues, hope it's worth a broken lip
Your hate clipped and distant, your luck
Rest assured this will not last, take a turn for the worst
Your hate clipped and distant, your luck two-headed
Pilgrimage has gained momentum
Take a turn, take a turn
Take our fortune, take our fortune

Pilgrimage.  Pilgrimage.

Pilgrimage has gained momentum
Take a turn, take a turn
Take our fortune, take our fortune
Take a turn, take a turn
Take our fortune, take our fortune

I can´t hear the hope in this part: "Speakin' in tongues, hope it's worth a broken lip" Can you?

[pauloedu]

bluemookie, on 05 October 2011 - 08:10 AM, said:

LAUGHING

Laocoon and her two sons
Pressured storm, tried to move
No other more, emotion bound
Martyred, misconstrued

Lighted in a room lanky room
Lighted lighted laughing in tune
Lighted lighted laughing

Laocoon and her two sons
Run the gamut, sated view
Know them more, emotion bound
Martyred, misconstrued

Lighted in a room lanky room
Lighted lighted laughing in tune
Lighted lighted laughing

In a room
lock the door latch the room  
Lighted, lighted, laughing

Laocoon and her two sons
Ran the gamut, settled new,
Find a place fit to laugh,
Lock the doors, latch the room

Lighted in a room, lanky room
Lighted, lighted, laughing in tune
Lighted, lighted, laughing in tune
Lighted, lighted, laughing in tunes
Lighted, lighted, laughing

I always thought "laughing in tune" was "laughing at you" or "I choose", or maybe in the first verse, "laughing, I too".  Thoughts?

I have a problem with the word in red.
The word sound nasal to me.
About the laughing, I think "laughing in tune" is a good option. I can´t hear the "at" in the "at you " option.

[pauloedu]

bluemookie, on 05 October 2011 - 08:13 AM, said:

Talk About The Passion

Empty prayer, empty mouths, combien reaction
Empty prayer, empty mouths, talk about the passion
Not everyone can carry the weight of the world
Not everyone can carry the weight of the world

Talk about the passion
Talk about the passion

Empty prayer, empty mouths, combien reaction
Empty prayer, empty mouths, talk about the passion
Combien, combien, combien de temps?

Talk about the passion
Talk about the passion

Not everyone can carry the weight of the world
Not everyone can carry the weight of the world
Combien, combien, combien de temps?

Talk about the passion
Talk about the passion
Talk about the passion
Talk about the passion
Talk about the passion
Talk about the passion

This is perfect

[pauloedu]

bluemookie, on 05 October 2011 - 08:26 AM, said:

MORAL KIOSK

Scratch the scandals in the twilight
Trying to shock but instead
Idle hands all orient to her
Pass a magic pillow under head

So much more attractive inside the moral kiosk
Inside of the kiosk, fire, twilight
Inside of the kiosk, fire, twilight
I prefer the other version
Inside, cold, dark, fire, twilight
Inside, cold, dark, fire, twilight

Scratch the scandals in the twilight
She was laughing like a Horae
Without me it's our landslide
Take the steps to dash all over light (hard?her?)

Its so much more attractive
Inside the moral kiosk
Inside of the kiosk, fire, twilight
Inside of the kiosk, fire, twilight

Scratch the scandals in the twilight
They're trying to shock but instead
Idle hands all orient to her
Pass a magic pillow under head

Its so much more attractive
Inside the moral kiosk
Inside of the kiosk, fire, twilight
Inside of the kiosk, fire, twilight

Inside of the kiosk, fire, twilight
Inside of the kiosk, fire, twilight  


"she was laughing like a Horae" sound more phonetically like "laughing like a borish".  You can hear the "SH" at the end of the word.
No idea about the backing vocals behind the chorus.  Asked Mike about them, but he had no idea.

I can´t hear the sh in the end of Horae.

[Sad Tomato]

Regarding RFR, I think it's "push that to the hull" which makes sense if you think about the fact that boats are mentioned in the song.

Regarding Orange Crush, I clearly hear it as "collar me/don't collar me" and since the song is also about being a soldier, being ordered to do things by a commanding officer could be likened to wearing a collar.

Also on the topic of accurate lyrics, what of the subtitles that can be found on some of the DVDs?  Do we think those could have been done by someone with inside knowledge or just some Joe Blow who was hired to take care of the task?

[bluemookie]

pauloedu, on 06 October 2011 - 02:32 PM, said:

I can´t hear the sh in the end of Horae.

Listen to a few of the '83 and '84 live shows.  I can hear "boorish", "boarist", or something like that.  I can absolutely hear, with some audio tweaking in Audition, the "SH" or "ST" on the Murmur version, subtle though it is.

Also, in the live versions, the chorus, I believe, is "inside (of) the kiosk".  you don't really hear the "K" in Kiosk, because of the style he sings it.  He ducks back and forth from the mike I think when he sings, but you can absolutely hear the "osk" at the end of the word.  I'll concede that the "of" isn't heard.

[bluemookie]

For Moral Kiosk, after listening to the live shows, I think it might be "idle hands are orient to hand".  "Hand" is pretty obvious in the live versions.  On the album, it could go either way, so I'll conclude it's probably "hand".

"take the steps to dash o-over light" is kinda what it sounds like to me.

I just need to find a good live version.  I haven't even listened to the live show on the murmur bonus disk to see what that one sounds like.  I figure most people will look at the comments we're writing and scratch their heads.  This is fun for me.  I love doing this, especially when I can bounce ideas off other people!

[bluemookie]

Sitting Still

This name I got we all agreed
C could stop stop it well read
We could bind it in the cist
We could gather, throw a fit

Up to par and Katie bars a kitchen signs, but not me in
Sit and try for the big key, a waste of time, sitting still

I'm the sign and you can read
I'm the sign and you're not deaf
We could bind it in the cist
We could gather, throw a fit

Up to par and Katie bars a kitchen signs, but not me in
Sit and try for the big key, a waste of time, sitting still
I can hear you.  I can hear you.  I can hear you.

This name I got we all agreed
C could stop stop it well read
We could bind it in the cist
We could gather, throw a fit

Up to par and Katie bars a kitchen signs, but not me in
Sit and try for the big key, a waste of time, sitting still
I can hear you.  I can hear you.  I can hear you.

You can gather when I talk, talk until you're blue
You could get away from me.  Get away from me.

Up to par and Katie bars a kitchen signs, but not me in
Sit and try for the big key, a waste of time, sitting still
I can hear you.  I can hear you.  I can hear you.
I can hear you.  I can hear you.  I can hear you.
Can you hear me?

[bluemookie]

Here's the intro spoken work, reworked with Adobe Audition.  I created an out of phase track then removed the low end.

Steady Repetition.mp3

Let me know if those lyrics need tweaking.

9-9

Steady…Steady repetition is a compulsion mutually reinforced.
Now what does that mean?
Is there a just contradiction?
Nothing much.
Now I lay me down to sleep, I pray the Lord my soul to keep.
If I should die before I wake, I pray the Lord, hesitate.

Not to punch right on target
Twisting tongues gotta stripe
Down his back all nine yards Down her back

Give me a couple
Don't give me a couple of pointers
Turn to lies in conversation fear

Not to punch right on target
Twisting tongue gotta stripe
Down his back all nine yards Down her back

Give me a couple
Don't give me a couple of pointers
Turn to lies in conversation

Focus in my mind
Focus in my mind
Focus in my 9-9
Signal 9-9
Signal 9-9
Signal never never fear the 9-9

Steady repetition is a compulsion mutually reinforced.
Now what does that mean?
Is there a just contradiction?
Nothing much.
Now I lay me down to sleep, I pray the Lord my soul to keep.
If I should die before I wake, oh come on, hesitate, hesitate.

Not to punch right on target
Twisting tongue he’s gotta stripe
Down her back (his back) all nine yards Down his back (her back)

Give me a couple,
Don't give me a couple of pointers,
Turn to lies in conversation fear

Conversation fear. Conversation fear. Conversation fear.

[bluemookie]

I know it's not "twisting tongues", but this phrase always stumped me.  Live versions shed more light that it is indeed something else, but what, I cannot say.

[Ronja]

here's the thing with the lyrics to stand that I have, Is it work or were?  I know it's not that different, just want to know which one is accurate

Stand in the place where you live
Now face North
Think about direction
Wonder why you haven’t
Now stand in the place where you work
Now face West
Think about the place where you live
Wonder why you haven’t before

If you are confused check with the sun
Carry a compass to help you along
Your feet are going to be on the ground
Your head is there to move you around, so

Stand in the place where you live
Now face North
Think about direction
Wonder why you haven’t
Now stand in the place where you work
Now face West
Think about the place where you live
Wonder why you haven’t before

Your feet are going to be on the ground
Your head is there to move you around
If wishes were trees
the trees would be falling
Listen to reason
Season is calling

Stand in the place where you live
Now face North
Think about direction
Wonder why you haven’t
Now stand in the place where you (work/ were)?
Now face West
Think about the place where you live
Wonder why you haven’t before

If wishes were trees
the trees would be falling
Listen to reason
Reason is calling
Your feet
are going to be on the ground
Your head
is there to move you around, so

Stand
Now face North
Think about direction
Wonder why you haven’t
Now stand
Now face West
Think about the place where you live
Wonder why you haven’t
So stand

[bluemookie]

I've always took it as "stand in the place where you work".  In Michael doesn't enunciate the final "k" for that verse, it's just Michael being Michael.

[Ronja]

bluemookie, on 07 October 2011 - 08:23 AM, said:

I've always took it as "stand in the place where you work".  In Michael doesn't enunciate the final "k" for that verse, it's just Michael being Michael.

thanks for your input, I agree with you, it's work, but I keep getting corrected    and that drives me nuts