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[thomas08]

actually cannot believe this has happened!!!

http://www.latimes.c...0,2644356.story

[Kelly A]

Just heard the official announcement from Obama.

If I weren't such a damn pacifist, I'd say "about time!"

[blueshades87]

Kelly A, on 01 May 2011 - 07:54 PM, said:

Just heard the official announcement from Obama.

If I weren't such a damn pacifist, I'd say "about time!"

He shouldn't have joined the Playstation Network....

[Epits Slim]

Kelly A, on 01 May 2011 - 07:54 PM, said:

Just heard the official announcement from Obama.

If I weren't such a damn pacifist, I'd say "about time!"

I'll say it for you

IT'S ABOUT TIME!

holy cheese and crackers, we've only been after him for the past decade. i suppose it would be too much to hope that all our operations that started in the search for him will eventually end, yea? i would prefer it if i never have to work in that region again.

[stipeeyes]

I didn't know what to expect at first when there was an announcement that the President was going to address the nation.  But given the time of night I figured it had to be something huge.  I'm glad he's dead.  The plane on 911 went down in my state of PA thanks to those brave souls who took over the plane. Who knows where that plane may have hit.    That was very scary.  New York I love and was so scared for all the people there. Even Michael Stipe was amongst one of the thousands who had to evacuate the smoke blackened streets, covered in soot.   Some of the people who had to evacuate were killed by falling debri, or from the smoke.  Than being in England during the July 7th attacks was devastating.  

This is certainly a death to celebrate.

[Lori]

Hopefully this will bring a lot of the soliders back home sooner. I'm glad Americans got him and finally justice.  Well done.

[thomas08]

blueshades87, on 01 May 2011 - 08:13 PM, said:

He shouldn't have joined the Playstation Network....

hahahahahahaha!  

[zveozdi]

stipeeyes, on 02 May 2011 - 04:08 AM, said:

This is certainly a death to celebrate.

While I understand what this must mean to all the citizens who lost their loved ones in the attacks, I really find the celebration in the streets appalling and the concept of 'justice' you have very different to the one I or the people in my country was taught. I guess it must be a cultural thing, don't know.

[Driver Nate]

zveozdi, on 02 May 2011 - 10:11 AM, said:

While I understand what this must mean to all the citizens who lost their loved ones in the attacks, I really find the celebration in the streets appalling and the concept of 'justice' you have very different to the one I or the people in my country was taught. I guess it must be a cultural thing, don't know.

Those people celebrating in the streets aren't at all representative of how I feel about the situation. While it's a relief that he was finally found, I can't get behind celebrating his (or anyone's) death no matter how evil they may have been. I have some friends on Facebook that lean very heavily to the right and today I find myself having to bite my tongue even more than usual. I know I have every right to speak my mind but in this case, I think I'm better off to keep my thoughts to myself even though it's extremely difficult to do so.

[fanfan]

zveozdi, on 02 May 2011 - 10:11 AM, said:

While I understand what this must mean to all the citizens who lost their loved ones in the attacks, I really find the celebration in the streets appalling and the concept of 'justice' you have very different to the one I or the people in my country was taught. I guess it must be a cultural thing, don't know.

I find these celebrations very weird, too, and it makes me feel akward. It's even stranger to see young people like that, you would expect some conservative hardliners to have feelings like that.

It would have been better to take Bin Laden to court. Shooting him is murder, doesn't have anything to do with justice. But then Guantanamo is another example of people not having a chance to defend themselves in front of a court.

While I'm happy that Bin Laden was found I think the U.S. should stick to higher principles. It's sad. Maybe, as you said, it's a cultural thing.

[michaels]

Yeah, I have to say, the celebrations were a little weird for me. We are often quick to mock mobs of people in the middle east burning flags and firing shots in the air. My stomach turned a little when I saw the scenes in New York and Washington. Not very 'civilized' in my opinion.

The man was obviously a freak of the highest order, and I guess folk will feel justified in celebrating his end. Personally, I don't want to hear my prime minister hail anyone's death. We don't have the death penalty here, and I like to think our justice system is not based on blood sacrifice.

Still, there's nothing like martyrdom for fanning the flames.

[Driver Nate]

fanfan, on 02 May 2011 - 12:10 PM, said:

It would have been better to take Bin Laden to court. Shooting him is murder, doesn't have anything to do with justice.

From what I just heard on the radio he refused to go peacefully, therefore leaving no other alternative than to shoot him.

[fanfan]

Driver Nate, on 02 May 2011 - 01:15 PM, said:

From what I just heard on the radio he refused to go peacefully, therefore leaving no other alternative than to shoot him.

Thanks, I just read it, too. Depending on the situation it's understandable that he was shot.

[Epits Slim]

michaels, on 02 May 2011 - 01:14 PM, said:

My stomach turned a little when I saw the scenes in New York and Washington. Not very 'civilized' in my opinion.

yea, funny thing about those scenes of people in NYC: I only saw them on the news. It was more or less business as usual here and i did not personally see any celebratory mobs in the street while out and about in Manhattan.

[pebbles]

Good that he's gone.
I hope this doesn't become the prelude to more uprisings though - he could be seen as a martyr for the cause to people who are inclined to the extremist types of thinking.

I bet the scenes of people celebrating in the streets are the scenes that will be shown a lot in some corners of the world.

[slinky1]

[In the Corner]

‎"If we have any feeling of victory or triumph in the case, it should be because we have succeeded in disabling him — not because he is dead."

from http://www.npr.org/2...ath?sc=fb&cc=fp

[She just wants to be anny]

In the Corner, on 02 May 2011 - 05:09 PM, said:

‎"If we have any feeling of victory or triumph in the case, it should be because we have succeeded in disabling him — not because he is dead."

from http://www.npr.org/2...ath?sc=fb&cc=fp

I think that's how I feel about it. Very interesting article, I do also worry about reprisals....

[Sweet Fanny Addams]

Well, he believed in martyrdom and  some version of an afterlife where 77 virgins will roll cigars for him on their pristine thighs, to reward him for being a murderous bastard. If there is an afterlife, I'd love to get  a window into that scenario.
My view? Good riddance to bad rubbish.
I'm not dancing in the street but I'm not crying either.

[Scootre]

fanfan, on 02 May 2011 - 12:10 PM, said:

I find these celebrations very weird, too, and it makes me feel akward. It's even stranger to see young people like that, you would expect some conservative hardliners to have feelings like that.

It would have been better to take Bin Laden to court. Shooting him is murder, doesn't have anything to do with justice. But then Guantanamo is another example of people not having a chance to defend themselves in front of a court.

While I'm happy that Bin Laden was found I think the U.S. should stick to higher principles. It's sad. Maybe, as you said, it's a cultural thing.

I'm sorry I don't share your melancholy over the death of one of the most evil people of the last 100 years. I find nothing at all sad about the entire situation EXCEPT for the families of those he was responsible for killing having old wounds re-opened.  Justice was served to him. He was afforded a chance to surrender and he declined and was summarily shot in his face.  You say better to take him to court?? For what purpose? You think he's innocent until proven guilty? What kind of fantasy land do you live in? Seriously.
He was found based on interrogations from that horrible Guantanamo detention center.  You know the place filled with his comrades that would given the chance wipe out all your friends and family in the name of their perverted version of Islam?  
Was I jumping up and down Sunday night as the news broke? No. Do I have some disdain for those that celebrated his death? Not at all. Honestly I was surprised at the spectacle of it. It seemed that the majority of those at the White House that evening were younger, college aged "kids".  I can't imagine what it would be like to go through 9/11 as an eight to eleven year old and have to grasp what happened to our society because of it. So for them to cheer on our president for a job well done and show some patriotism I have no issue with it.  As for higher principles, you can only look at the way his body was disposed of in keeping with his religious beliefs and rituals.  The US didn't have to do that for him.  
I never write things like this on a message board especially in a forum like this.  I'd much rather talk about a US summer tour for the band but I just felt compelled to respond.